Brian "DoctaBu" Moore ([info]doctabu) wrote,
@ 2006-11-22 23:55:00
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The Homemade Wireless Wii Sensor Bar!
From the moment I picked up my Nintendo Wii last Sunday morning, I've been very curious about the design and functionality of the Wiimote and its sensor bar. Of course, I'm not the only one. Through a few links on sites like digg, it has come to other people's attention that the Wii sensor bar both only consists of IR LEDs and also sends no signal between the Wii and the bar... only power.

This had me thinking. It my apartment in Boston, I have a projector, but I feared hooking my Wii up to it because of the length I'd need to have in the cable to put the bar right under the image. Then, I thought, maybe I can make one.

So, I did.

With just a perf board, some wires, a bit of soldering, 4 AA batteries, and 4 IR LEDs, I was able to make this:

The Homebrew Wireless Wii Sensor Bar 4


Yes, it's ugly. Yes, it's ghetto. But, it is a wireless, battery-powered Wii Sensor Bar. And it works.

First, I measured the distance between the middle of the left set of LEDs on the Nintendo sensor bar to the middle of the right set. That came out to be 7 1/2 inches. It wasn't a perfect measurement, but since the Wiimote triangulates the distance, it's accurate enough. Soldering wire from the positive side of the battery holder to a switch, the switch to the positive end of one of the IR LEDs, then to the next, to the next, to the next, and then back to the battery terminal, it was easily completed.

The Homebrew Wireless Wii Sensor Bar 1
Placing the IR LEDs.

The Homebrew Wireless Wii Sensor Bar 2
Soldering some wires together!


Placed on top of my TV showed that it was a success... the Mii plaza, the Wii menus, Wii sports, and Zelda all worked and moved just as well as it had with Nintendo's stock sensor bar. There is no need for a wireless transmitter or an extension cord. Just unplug Nintendo's stock bar, put your homebrew wireless Wii sensor bar in place, and you're good to go.



Enjoy!

The entire Flickr set | digg this! | As seen on MAKE, Engadget, joystiq, wiifanboy


CREDIT: Tons goes to Eoban Binder, who traveled with me and helped quite a bit with the wiring and whatnot. It wouldn't've happened without him. Also, Kevin Moore for even more wiring help!


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Flickr user BlueM00 has a bunch of pictures of the (much prettier) sensor bar he made. The best part is it can plug into an outlet. Be sure to check it out! Here's his schematic:

Parts List:
1 Friend to motivate you and design everything
2 project boxes
2 small bread boards
2 10k Ohm potentiometers (Waaay overkill. Do your math first)
4 High output IR LED's
4 Led holders
Dual strand wire
1 AC to DC converter, 6V, 300mA.
1 Power connector

I put two LEDs and a pot in series in each project box and connected the project boxes to the power supply via the wire. I set the resistance of each potentiometer at 60 Ohms, and the LEDs have a 1.2V drop across them. The circuit simply looks like this:

6V
|
+---/\/\/\----|>|----|>|---GND
|
+---/\/\/\----|>|----|>|---GND



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[info]spengo
2006-11-23 08:11 am UTC (link)
LOL that is awesome man! xD

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[info]wheremyarm
2006-11-23 08:15 am UTC (link)
Do you think maybe if you put, say a circle-formation of 10 on each side, so the IR light is much brighter, you could improve the performance over longer distances? Because the remote tends to get a bit glitchy once you get past about 6 or 7 feet.

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(no subject) - [info]doctabu, 2006-11-23 08:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]neozero497, 2006-11-23 05:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vanbeast, 2006-11-24 03:43 pm UTC
Also separate the leds a bit more. - (Anonymous), 2006-11-24 05:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]candynulyq, 2008-07-16 01:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]claudeplat, 2008-08-10 10:06 pm UTC
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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2008-08-23 07:37 pm UTC
Very cool.
(Anonymous)
2006-11-23 08:50 am UTC (link)
I'll have to give this a try tomorrow. I'll be very glad to get rid of that fifteen-ish-foot-long wire that comes with it.

Thanks for this.

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My native university! - (Anonymous), 2007-05-02 06:15 pm UTC
Cool Idea but...
(Anonymous)
2006-11-23 08:57 am UTC (link)
The Wii's sensor bar actually has 3 IR leds on each side, so I would suggest using at least 3 to a side instead of two. Other than that, good job!

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Re: Cool Idea but... - [info]doctabu, 2006-11-23 09:12 am UTC
Re: Cool Idea but... - (Anonymous), 2007-04-22 03:09 pm UTC
Re: Cool Idea but... - (Anonymous), 2007-04-25 06:06 pm UTC
Re: Cool Idea but... - (Anonymous), 2007-05-28 10:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jeramysotta, 2008-08-11 05:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dwightheryck, 2008-08-11 05:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mariohedouin, 2008-08-11 02:41 pm UTC
Ehh...
(Anonymous)
2006-11-23 09:22 am UTC (link)
Couldn't the stock Wii IR bar be battery powered?

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[info]danin_adc
2006-11-23 09:23 am UTC (link)
Couldn't you also just snip the power cable to the stock sensor bar and wire some batteries up to that for the same effect?

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Wii Bar Voltage? - (Anonymous), 2006-11-23 10:21 pm UTC
Re: Wii Bar Voltage? - [info]doctabu, 2006-11-23 11:55 pm UTC
Re: Wii Bar Voltage? - [info]el_rodente, 2006-11-24 05:54 pm UTC
Re: Wii Bar Voltage? - [info]el_rodente, 2006-11-24 05:54 pm UTC
Re: Wii Bar Voltage? - (Anonymous), 2006-11-24 07:56 am UTC
Re: Wii Bar Voltage? - (Anonymous), 2006-11-26 07:14 am UTC
Re: Wii Bar Voltage? - [info]doctabu, 2006-11-26 07:17 am UTC
Re: Wii Bar Voltage? - (Anonymous), 2006-11-27 10:57 pm UTC
Re: Wii Bar Voltage? - (Anonymous), 2006-12-01 02:37 am UTC
Re: Wii Bar Voltage? - (Anonymous), 2006-11-27 11:12 pm UTC
Re: Wii Bar Voltage? - (Anonymous), 2006-12-08 01:27 am UTC
Re: Wii Bar Voltage? - (Anonymous), 2006-12-23 05:05 am UTC
Re: Wii Bar Voltage? - (Anonymous), 2007-03-04 01:15 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]martygrubbs, 2008-08-10 09:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eliasmille, 2008-08-11 04:02 am UTC
Resistors
(Anonymous)
2006-11-23 09:27 am UTC (link)
Don't see any current limiting resistors.

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Re: Resistors - (Anonymous), 2006-11-23 04:54 pm UTC
Re: Resistors - [info]3sat, 2006-11-25 12:46 am UTC
Re: Resistors - (Anonymous), 2006-12-29 02:48 pm UTC
Re: Resistors - (Anonymous), 2007-05-28 03:42 am UTC
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[info]velusip
2006-11-23 09:32 am UTC (link)
How few ampheres/voltage can you get away with to power the IR LEDs? Have you done any testing with smaller ammounts of power? I'd like to see alternate power methods. Perhaps using a video signal out from the TV itself, or a strip of solar panel laying flat on a surface infront of the TV.

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(no subject) - [info]jrobot, 2006-12-11 02:28 am UTC
RE: Solar panels? - (Anonymous), 2008-04-02 03:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tonyafoduh, 2008-07-11 08:04 pm UTC
building it into my TV
(Anonymous)
2006-11-23 10:23 am UTC (link)
I don't really care that much about my TV (its old and crappy. Waht would i have to do to run these leds off the TVs internal power?)

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Re: building it into my TV - [info]zetawoof, 2006-11-23 11:21 am UTC
Re: building it into my TV - (Anonymous), 2006-11-23 05:07 pm UTC
Re: building it into my TV - (Anonymous), 2006-11-26 05:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cherylhazzelwo, 2008-08-11 08:42 am UTC
possible without batteries?
(Anonymous)
2006-11-23 10:25 am UTC (link)
Does this really require 4 batteries? Could it be mains-powered?

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Re: possible without batteries? - [info]zetawoof, 2006-11-23 11:22 am UTC
Re: possible without batteries? - [info]fallenturtle, 2006-12-04 07:14 pm UTC
Re: possible without batteries? - [info]zetawoof, 2006-12-04 08:08 pm UTC
Re: possible without batteries? - (Anonymous), 2006-11-24 09:39 pm UTC
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t3h 1337n355
[info]ixneonxi
2006-11-23 01:54 pm UTC (link)
t3h 1337n355 c4nn07 be xcd3d h3r3.

So it is the exact same size with the exact same stuff on the inside, but it just looks ghetto and is wireless so it could easily be put say... on a wall?

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wow
(Anonymous)
2006-11-23 03:09 pm UTC (link)
im lost, the bar does not need a cable or a transmiter??? how is the info sent to the wii???

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Re: wow - [info]ultimadragon, 2006-11-23 03:24 pm UTC
Re: wow - (Anonymous), 2006-11-23 05:36 pm UTC
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Re: wow - (Anonymous), 2008-06-12 03:31 am UTC
Adapted for BIG screens
(Anonymous)
2006-11-23 03:59 pm UTC (link)
I wonder if making these more powerful, or at least using a bigger cluster, and spreading them apart would increase the accuracy for a giant screen. That way you could step back a bit to take in the big screen, but still have an accurate Wii cursor.

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Re: Adapted for BIG screens - (Anonymous), 2006-11-23 05:08 pm UTC
Re: Adapted for BIG screens - (Anonymous), 2006-11-28 01:23 am UTC
Re: Adapted for BIG screens - (Anonymous), 2006-12-09 06:20 pm UTC
Re: Adapted for BIG screens - (Anonymous), 2008-06-12 03:33 am UTC

[info]neozero497
2006-11-23 05:32 pm UTC (link)
Does any specific frequency work best?

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[info]_fluffy
2006-11-23 09:35 pm UTC (link)
Huh! Since the "sensor bar" actually doesn't have any sensors or any pulse modulation or whatever, I'd be tempted to take this a step further and just put a couple of discreet IR "beacons" under my TV's screen and power them via an AC adaptor. There's no reason they even need to be in a single unit if this is the case.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-11-25 03:00 am UTC
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Candles - (Anonymous), 2007-04-28 03:01 pm UTC
Power
(Anonymous)
2006-11-24 02:47 am UTC (link)
Thanks for answering my question but now I got another
how long will the power last on that bar you made? assumign two per side is enough, (maybe 3?), how long will those last in terms of hours? I do have a projector at home and well, I plan on logging 100s of hours on it, so I don't want to have to swap batteries out every like 30 hours and stuff

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Re: Power - (Anonymous), 2006-11-25 07:57 am UTC
Re: Power - (Anonymous), 2006-11-28 09:36 pm UTC
Re: Power - (Anonymous), 2006-12-05 03:57 am UTC
Re: Power - (Anonymous), 2007-08-07 08:01 am UTC

[info]inversation
2006-11-24 04:49 am UTC (link)
This is entirely awesome but I have one (probably glaringly obvious) question:

If there is nothing being sent to/from the wii via the sensor remote cable, then what the hell is the point of the thing? What does it _DO_?

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(no subject) - [info]doctabu, 2006-11-24 05:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]inversation, 2006-11-24 06:33 am UTC
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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-12-01 08:58 pm UTC
wii cable info - (Anonymous), 2007-03-29 10:38 pm UTC
Re: wii cable info - [info]inversation, 2007-03-30 02:10 am UTC
Nice..
(Anonymous)
2006-11-24 08:12 am UTC (link)
I too have made one (not wireless) that uses the original sensor bar's power supply. Later today I plan on making an adapter using the 5v on the USB ports..

Heres a url to my thread on a forum about Linux on the Wii for further info:
http://www.wiili.org/forum/building-a--und-quotsensor-und-quot-bar-t154.html

They've got a great concept going and could use any help..

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Re: Nice.. - (Anonymous), 2006-11-24 02:12 pm UTC
Sensor Length
(Anonymous)
2006-11-24 12:27 pm UTC (link)
Do the LEDs have to be the same distance apart as they are on the stock strip? I want to build one for my projector, and was wondering if maybe I need to make the strip longer, because the screen is that much bigger. Thanks, and awesome work!

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Re: Sensor Length - (Anonymous), 2006-11-24 03:19 pm UTC
Re: Sensor Length - [info]magus999420, 2007-03-17 10:16 am UTC

[info]vanbeast
2006-11-24 03:47 pm UTC (link)
I'm wondering if spreading the LEDs out will change the distance the remote thinks it is from the TV. I've got sort of a weird setup, a smaller TV and quite a distance from it... plus it's about 1.5 ft above my natural eye height, so I've had to fiddle around to get things working. For instance, the wii thinks the sensor bar is below the TV when it is actually above.

The problem I'm having is with zelda, where it wants me to cut the distance about in half. I haven't noticed any degradation in play with the distance I'm at, but I also haven't tried standing where it wants me to stand and playing.

If I could just move the LEDs further apart and trick the wii into thinking I was closer, I'd be happy. I'll have to try it this weekend; I'm building a couple of standalone IR transmitters for a friend with a projector anyway.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-11-24 04:10 pm UTC
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[info]bilan
2006-11-24 04:44 pm UTC (link)
Very interesting...

BTW, I recognize you from the Emerson LJ community, but I was linked here via a forum I post at. Small world.

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Battery or Mains Mod For Stock Sensor Bar - (Anonymous), 2006-11-24 07:29 pm UTC

[info]zachary15
2006-11-24 07:24 pm UTC (link)
Very cool. Nice job!

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19cm
(Anonymous)
2006-11-24 08:11 pm UTC (link)
Japanese use metric. So its not 7 1/2 inches, its 19cm ;P

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Re: 19cm - [info]doctabu, 2006-11-24 08:14 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-11-24 10:06 pm UTC (link)
so, all i need are two clumps of IR leds 7 1/2 in. apart and my home made sensor bar will work? and it can work on a screen around 9ft x 5ft, or will a screen that size possibly not work as well?

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-11-24 10:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-12-01 10:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]doctabu, 2006-12-01 10:16 am UTC
Incredible
(Anonymous)
2006-11-24 11:56 pm UTC (link)
You my friend, are a genius. A quick run to Radio Shack for some new LEDs and I'll be in unrestricted position heaven.

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Re: Incredible - (Anonymous), 2007-01-01 02:05 am UTC
Re: Incredible - [info]doctabu, 2007-01-01 11:21 am UTC
Re: Incredible - (Anonymous), 2007-05-05 07:30 pm UTC

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